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Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 09:43
by Arman
What we are thinking now is that we won't do a purge.
What we are thinking is implementing a time stamp on all equipment (excluding things like backpacks and lamps etc), so that after 2-3 months it expires... regardless of whether it is used or not.
We'll also incorporate an item decay based on use in combat. So after x amount of time in combat, that item expires. We haven't come up with the exact time x will be, but i was thinking 120 hours of combat... happy to get feedback from you all on whether that number is ok or not.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 12:02
by Thalric
120 hours is 5 whole days worth of fighting, and I find that to be more than enough for a non-tank to enjoy their equipment.
Hunt for 6 hours each night and you get 20 days out of it.
Tanks will, I hope, need to change their equipment more often as they are getting beaten up.
And I love the idea of items rusting away while lying forgotten in a rack somewhere.
Perhaps make them decay in condition over time, instead, so you have the option to take them to a smith to make them last longer by taking care of them?
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 12:39
by Tarlok
I like your proposed system Arman.
Have you considered adding a bit of a sliding scale based on discipline? Perhaps around 100 hours at low levels of dis, maybe 200 at high levels of discpline. This would help maintain the idea of adding some usefulness to discipline especially once one surpases the level of discpline needed to engage even the largest of opponents.
I also hope this sytem replaces the current method armours wear down on tanks, and is not just a supplemental decay mechanism, because currently armours can last around 2 - 3 hours in combat with heavy usage on a tank and I think that is way too short.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 14:19
by Arman
Tarlok wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019 12:39
I like your proposed system Arman.
Have you considered adding a bit of a sliding scale based on discipline? Perhaps around 100 hours at low levels of dis, maybe 200 at high levels of discpline. This would help maintain the idea of adding some usefulness to discipline especially once one surpases the level of discpline needed to engage even the largest of opponents.
I also hope this sytem replaces the current method armours wear down on tanks, and is not just a supplemental decay mechanism, because currently armours can last around 2 - 3 hours in combat with heavy usage on a tank and I think that is way too short.
Would add a reason to increase discipline and give that stat some value. We'll have a think about that.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 15:40
by Anfalas
Arman wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019 14:19
Tarlok wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019 12:39
I like your proposed system Arman.
Have you considered adding a bit of a sliding scale based on discipline? Perhaps around 100 hours at low levels of dis, maybe 200 at high levels of discpline. This would help maintain the idea of adding some usefulness to discipline especially once one surpases the level of discpline needed to engage even the largest of opponents.
I also hope this sytem replaces the current method armours wear down on tanks, and is not just a supplemental decay mechanism, because currently armours can last around 2 - 3 hours in combat with heavy usage on a tank and I think that is way too short.
Would add a reason to increase discipline and give that stat some value. We'll have a think about that.
You likely already thought of this, but maybe add some randomness to it as well as boosted by discipline? Ie base of 150 hrs + random 100 hrs somehow boosted by discipline?
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 19:58
by nils
I want more hours.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 04 Dec 2019 21:19
by Draugor
nils wrote: ↑04 Dec 2019 19:58
I want more hours.
You cant have them.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 05 Dec 2019 00:28
by Amberlee
Word of advice.
Don't time stamp at all.
Not needed with the decay.
Just punishes casuals who wish to invest in heavy imbues.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 05 Dec 2019 10:02
by Cherek
Amberlee wrote: ↑05 Dec 2019 00:28
Word of advice.
Don't time stamp at all.
Not needed with the decay.
Just punishes casuals who wish to invest in heavy imbues.
We did discuss this a lot, and the problem is that if only combat makes things decay, we'll eventually end up with huge piles of EQ that is beneficial out of combat, since that kind of EQ would never be lost. We came to the conclusion that all EQ must have a finite lifetime, even if it will hurt casuals a bit. However, a couple of months is a pretty long time to enjoy your imbued EQ, even for a casual player.
Re: Perma-saving items
Posted: 05 Dec 2019 10:24
by Thalric
I love the idea of everything decaying.
It encourages people to actually play the game and not just stand around idling.
You would need to go out and get new stuff, if you want the option to go out and fight.
One could argue that it will make people rarely playing the game, or not playing at all, playing even less..
But if they don't play the game to begin with, nothing is changed.
I also love the idea based on the fact that the fewer items of certain kinds in the game, the bigger the chance to find said items. Which will benefit all those who are actually active.