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Draugor
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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Draugor » 14 Nov 2013 23:25

Amorana wrote:
Kiara wrote:Damn those newbies. coming here messing up our nice little game! :)

Guys and girls. Really! For ages we've been begging for new players, and now that they come they're not good enough?:)

Seriously, every truly new player will have a tough time adjusting to everything about Genesis. Its different to many "new" games in so many ways. Give people a break. Fine, newbie tell isnt for telling people that you just walked your dog and stuff. But thats how chat works in most games. So, c'mon. Ease them into figuring out we're different. I think we can accept a few mistakes on the ntell made BY newbies. Yes, we should obviously not _encourage_ casual chatting, but that is maybe something we have trouble with sometimes too, so...

Would you enjoy trying a new game and then reading on the public forum that people think you're doing it all wrong and that you're obnoxious? Really... come on. Be nice! Newbies have feelings too!
Oh, believe me, my biggest beef isn't with the Newbies. Sure I called the one a twit because they can't seem to read between the lines. However, my biggest pet peeve is often the people that send about 50 messages and have a conversation with the newbie. If you're interested in having a conversation, ask them to let you lead them about so that you can teach them a bit about the game. It's the veteran players that I shouldn't HAVE to tell how to use the ntell that are using it improperly that bother me the most.

Indeed, beeing friendly to newbies is clearly hurting the game :P

Seems not you nor Gorboth want new players here

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Amorana
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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Amorana » 14 Nov 2013 23:27

Draugor wrote:
Amorana wrote:
Kiara wrote:Damn those newbies. coming here messing up our nice little game! :)

Guys and girls. Really! For ages we've been begging for new players, and now that they come they're not good enough?:)

Seriously, every truly new player will have a tough time adjusting to everything about Genesis. Its different to many "new" games in so many ways. Give people a break. Fine, newbie tell isnt for telling people that you just walked your dog and stuff. But thats how chat works in most games. So, c'mon. Ease them into figuring out we're different. I think we can accept a few mistakes on the ntell made BY newbies. Yes, we should obviously not _encourage_ casual chatting, but that is maybe something we have trouble with sometimes too, so...

Would you enjoy trying a new game and then reading on the public forum that people think you're doing it all wrong and that you're obnoxious? Really... come on. Be nice! Newbies have feelings too!
Oh, believe me, my biggest beef isn't with the Newbies. Sure I called the one a twit because they can't seem to read between the lines. However, my biggest pet peeve is often the people that send about 50 messages and have a conversation with the newbie. If you're interested in having a conversation, ask them to let you lead them about so that you can teach them a bit about the game. It's the veteran players that I shouldn't HAVE to tell how to use the ntell that are using it improperly that bother me the most.

Indeed, beeing friendly to newbies is clearly hurting the game :P

Seems not you nor Gorboth want new players here
No, I just want people to take a break from grinding and actually help. I saw Prokop leading two newbies about the other day. That's the type of behavior we need to really help integrate people into the game. Chatting with them at length via a tell line doesn't help them to learn the game or foster growth and immersion.
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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Celephias » 14 Nov 2013 23:28

Kudos to Prokop (who's always been a great player). It also can be a great recruiting tool.....

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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Kitriana » 14 Nov 2013 23:56

Oh Pardon me for not liking that a newbie cursed me out in the process of me trying to help them.
Did you ever hear the saying.. don't bite the hand that feeds you?
And as a result.. I broke my pin and will not help further.
Maybe someone else doesn't mind getting their "hand bitten".

If they'd done it to me face to face instead of on the ntell line -- I'd likely have flung a dagger right through them instead of just breaking my pin.

I'd be happy if that newbie came on here and read that I thought they were an obnoxious jerk. Maybe that person would learn some manners.
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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Laurel » 15 Nov 2013 00:08

Let's be clear on one thing: it wasn't my alt! Promise! ;-)

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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Kiara » 15 Nov 2013 00:27

Kitriana wrote:Oh Pardon me for not liking that a newbie cursed me out in the process of me trying to help them.
Did you ever hear the saying.. don't bite the hand that feeds you?
And as a result.. I broke my pin and will not help further.
Maybe someone else doesn't mind getting their "hand bitten".

If they'd done it to me face to face instead of on the ntell line -- I'd likely have flung a dagger right through them instead of just breaking my pin.

I'd be happy if that newbie came on here and read that I thought they were an obnoxious jerk. Maybe that person would learn some manners.
Heh. Time for nftell? Newbie Flame Tell. The place for obnoxious newbies and helpers banned from the original ntell!

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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Windemere » 19 Nov 2013 19:37

I do think it is important that those who are not "newbies" be able to use this line for assistance as well.

Just because you reach a certain size in the game does not mean you will not run into questions or concerns that you have. I think that shifting from Newbie to Newbie Helper automatically gives the illusion that you should know everything.

Maybe it should be based on # of days played before you switch over.

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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by Arcon » 19 Nov 2013 20:22

Windemere wrote:I do think it is important that those who are not "newbies" be able to use this line for assistance as well.

Just because you reach a certain size in the game does not mean you will not run into questions or concerns that you have. I think that shifting from Newbie to Newbie Helper automatically gives the illusion that you should know everything.

Maybe it should be based on # of days played before you switch over.

Windemere
I think that the idea is that once someone isn't a newbie anymore they know how to use the PO/messengers or at least wait until they run into someone that can help them. And that they don't need to use the newbie line. I have always seen it as the last resort.

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Re: Newbie Pin Rules

Post by gorboth » 19 Nov 2013 20:53

Exactly. The newbie line is to help people ease into the very foreign text-based gaming experience. It is not a live wiki for players to use telepathically with one another. No no no.

NO.

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