Tive wrote:Yes, wizards did code this way. I did it for example. And I was inspired by others who did that before me. And there were others who did it later too. Sad but true. Fact. Wizards are human and they do get influenced by their friends, unless they get locked in the cage and don't talk to anyone
So, I'm going to try to not get in the middle of this fight...mostly because I find internet drama to be ridiculous. However ... the fact that you and some other wizards before/after you coded for friends/seconds does not mean that ALL wizards did/do. Really, I would imagine that friends/seconds would be a really good place to draw inspiration from. Of course, the challenge is to ensure that inspiration does not turn into cold, hard cheating. Cherek may be naive in thinking that NO wizards coded this way (I'm too lazy to look back to see if he suggested that), but I would say that you are also naive if you think ALL wizards code this way. I'm drawing a conclusion based on what I think you said ... if that's not what you think, don't get too angry or defensive. Just understand this in the internet, words and meanings get lost easily.
It looks like this whole thread started because someone was curious what was going on with the recodes, and I believe we have a good idea. From the information we have, as players, we can pretty safely assume the following:
-The recodes are still planned (board posts by Gorboth)
-It's taking a long time (it hasn't happened yet)
-We'll be told if there's no longer plans to recode the remaining guilds (game administration has been pretty upfront, at least lately)
If you look at the 'who' list with any frequency you can see the wizards that are online. If you do, you probably notice that there isn't 50 of them ... not even 10. I think I usually see an average of 3 on the 'who' list and I'm assuming there's some that are invisible or, through some trickery, hiding. As a real-life programmer, I can tell you that recoding anything that is any size bigger than a few lines of code does not, under any circumstances, happen quickly....and that's assuming you have a dedicated team that spends 8 hours a day just doing this. My understanding is that the wizards is a volunteer workforce ... and a small one at that. My point, simply, is that even if all the active wizards put their efforts solely towards recoding the remaining guilds ... there's no way it would be done 'soon'. It would be naive to assume that all active wizards are involved in the recode, anyway.
When is the last time the guilds were touched? Rangers, for example. I would assume (maybe naively) that the Ranger code is ancient. Have you ever gone back and tried to redo or even touchup something that you, yourself, did years ago? Even something as simple as reorganizing the garage. Even better, for you programmers out there, have you ever had to review legacy code that someone else wrote? Yeah, it's not easy. It sucks, it's hard. My guess is the last person to code these guilds isn't around anymore and I'm also guessing that the way the coding is done today is vastly different then the way coding was done "then". This post is full of guesswork and assumptions, I'll be the first to admit and if corrections can be made to my statements I'm listening, honest.
Closing points, give the wizards a break. They volunteer their time to give this game some life and I have to assume they're trying their best. Sitting here on the forums calling each other names isn't really going to help anything. Someone, or worse, some people will get pissed off and leave the game for good. Then what? If you want to help, I'm sure the wizards would appreciate helpful or constructive suggestions. I, admittedly, don't have any.