This question has the potential to derail this thread, so I will ask anyone who wants to keep talking about it to create a new thread for that purpose. I'll delete (hint - fair warning!) any posts that try to use this thread to respond to what I'm about to say about the AA. But, to quickly answer this question (and then end the subject in THIS thread) the majority of the AA players left when, about a month after the guild had been re-opened, the bonk special was deemed incorrectly implemented by AoB. The special was changed to not always target the head, which many players felt was a horrible nerf, and due to Admin bias against the guild and it's players. Some wizards also felt this was due to bias, and helped stir up disgust in the player community, which lead to a mass exodus. That's the official story, and you can create a new thread if you want to discuss it further (which I do not recommend, since it is old sour grapes, and really only likely to stir up drama.)arcon wrote:We have had some waves of returning players, the opening of AA and the opening of the Genesis FB group. I would like to know why those players did not stick around. I think that is much more important then knowing why they left in the first place. They came and they saw the "new" and changed Genesis, why didn't they stay?
As for why the FB players didn't stick around, my guess is that there were two problems. One is that many of the FB people didn't return to play, but instead returned to sniff around, and see what the old place looked like. Once they had done that, they really didn't have time/interest in the sort of game Genesis offers anymore. The other reason, I believe, is that the FB chat featured many of the worst types of nonsense that Genesis has to offer. As so often happens online, the mouthy negative players tend to rule the roost, and even if they don't rule, they make so much noise that they turn people off to all the good that is actually the reality of the game.
Laurel - these are AWESOME IDEAS. I love them! Great great stuff.Laurel wrote:I was rather thinking along those lines:
a. I stopped, cause I needed more time in RL
BUT did you know that now it's really not a problem to get geared up in Genesis? you can even join guilds, that are totally undependant from the eq-run hassle, hence you can always spend just as much time on Genesis as you have
b. I stopped, cause of stupid buttheads giving me a hard time
BUT did you know most of them stopped playing / were deleted?
c. I stopped, cause I found application/joining procedures to be fucked up long
BUT did you know, that this issue has been dealt with either by code or by mortals themselves in the game already?
d. I stopped after my chars were deleted
BUT did you hear about the restoration of old chars run by Gorboth a while ago?
If you don't ask questions, you will hardly get answers to work on the issues (if they weren't already dealt with).
You can run information campaigns on FB too, just like you did on this forum. This month we advertise, that there is free restoration for old chars. Next month we advertise, that X number of new guild members (aside from free-join guilds) have appeared over the last Y months, with an average of Z hours of play-time apprenticehood.
I don't know - that's shooting at issues that were not researched, so in other words shooting blind.