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Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 17:08
by Zhar
amberlee wrote:This is possibly something that could convince me to leave my beloved Rangers :O
Though the possibility is even higher if you follow Zhar's guidelines..
World of Darkness inspired <3
btw Zhar.. check out stuff around the comming MMO World of Darkness Online
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I'm following this pretty rigorously. Unfortunately it has been delayed indifinitely as CCP has pulled most of the stuff to work on some form of EVE 2.0 first. An MMO where your social contacts and abilities are even more important than actual stats and eq is most intriguing.
And Draugor, I believe that Petros stated that anything shapeshift-related is going to come after the magic recode is done. I'm not sure about this but Rangers might be a part of that (as they're spell users too).
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 17:37
by Amberlee
Actually it was delayed as CCP wanted to finish Dust 514 first.
But yeah.. its something i follow rigorously too
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Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 18:12
by petros
I logged onto another mud with a shapeshifter guild. Here is their list of forms that they support.
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You gain the ability to transform into various
beasties. Each creature gains special attack forms and/or
abilities.
Forms Lev Cost Forms Lev Cost
----- --- ---- ----- --- ----
Normal - - Remorhaz 24 55
Skunk 1 5 Beholder 25 60
Goblin 2 5 Vampire 26 60
Gremlin 3 5 Roc 27 65
Bullywug 4 5 Phoenix 28 70
Boa 5 10 Abishai 29 75
Gith 6 10 Giant 30 80
Anhkheg 7 15 Scaladar 31 85
Giff 8 15 Tanar'ri 32 85
Griffon 9 20 Dragon 35 90
Panther 10 20 Nightmare 40 100
Catoblepas 11 20 Gorilla 41 105
Troll 12 25 Pitfiend 42 110
Gorgon 13 25 Tarrasque 45 120
Thri-kreen 14 25 Bebilith 46 120
Hawk 15 30 Crimson death 47 125
Hydra 16 30 Mind flayer 48 130
Revenant 17 40 Adamantium dragon 49 135
Displacer 18 40 Otyugh 52 135
Ettin 19 45 Lich 56 140
Basilisk 20 50 Spectral death 60 145
Argos 21 50 Greater Wyrd 64 150
Banshee 22 55 Gargantua 75 150
Chimera 23 55
Humanoid forms:
Orc 1 10 Minotaur 20 50
Ogre 10 20 Death Knight 30 80
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 18:22
by Amberlee
That would be more of a shapeshifter/druid like concept.
Would you consider a more lycantrophic concept?
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 18:26
by Draugor
amberlee wrote:That would be more of a shapeshifter/druid like concept.
Would you consider a more lycantrophic concept?
There was a Lycan guild on Demonsgate, the Garou, damn nice guild at that.
A druid guild like the druids from the forgotten realms would be awsome, could use a guild in Faerun or something
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 19:03
by Zhar
I must confess that when Petros mentioned shapeshifter guild I also thought about lycanthropes, werebears, druids and the like. Not entirely sure I'd like to transform into a rat or something like that...
Neither do I see people transforming into something like that (sorry Petros):
![Image](http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/7/7e/Dracolich_-_Fred_Hooper.jpg)
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 19:32
by petros
Zhar wrote:Neither do I see people transforming into something like that (sorry Petros):
![Image](http://images.wikia.com/forgottenrealms/images/7/7e/Dracolich_-_Fred_Hooper.jpg)
You're breaking my heart, Zhar. I'm going to include the picture purposely in the quote again so that I can see the picture of this wonderful dracolich more than once. *cackle*
I would certainly consider more of a lycan-style changeling guild. I know that was actually Eowul's focus. To me, you really can't have lycans without vampires. And that's just another discussion that we can have at a later time
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There's only so much "fun" that you can have with a limited number of forms. By introducing a shapeshifter guild, I think the quest possibilities (not actual quest xp, but questing for forms) becomes so much more intriguing. Imagine that in order to obtain the dragon form, you have to turn into a rat, crawl through some small spaces, turn into a hawk to fly up a cliff, turn into a basilisk to turn something to stone before you can smash it to smithereens using a banshee wail. All that to get access to an runic artifact that you can study the dragon form.
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 20:07
by Zhar
Well, I've always liked the concept of two worlds, the regular one and the shadow/spirit world (kind of like Umbra in WoD, you can read it up). I even once had an idea of creating a guild where you could shift between the two, and shapeshift into a shadowy, incorporeal form (wraith-like) in the real world. It would open a whole new level of possibilities, like circumventing some travel paths via the shadow world (anyone who played Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver will know what I mean here), enhanced/limited interaction, a whole new world to explore etc.
But then I thought about the amount of how much time and effort it would actually take to code such thing and I gave up on it
Edit: Oh, and I like the idea of questing for forms and utilising them for guru quest of sorts. But still, I'd limit that to druid-like thing and allow them to transform into some animals (and give them pets too!) but dragons, banshees and such... It's just too much in my eyes.
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 20:36
by Laurel
Skunk! The perfect shapeshift for me!
Re: Changeling / Shapeshifters
Posted: 25 Apr 2012 22:27
by Kas
Legacy of Kain == win.
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