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Draugor wrote:Will they be REALLY neutral or "neutral"?

is the real question "can I join them as necro?"?

Makfly wrote:It sure would be nice to have an occupational caster guild in the game, that is neutral and not surrounded by all the BS that the current ones.
Not to mention, having another guild that does not have the same old people sitting on the same leadership positions for ages.

But I guess that was too good to true.
I hope, whoever is coding the OCC neutral caster guild, that they consider what the game needs, instead of trying to copy all current caster guilds.

The problem is the magic system is so flawed, if you allow any run-down 2-bit schmuck in, they'll just get the guild shut down. Sadly there are too many people who abuse the system whether it be PvP or PvE.

There already are enough people who can't police themselves in melee guilds.

Until either the administration puts these people in their place, or they learn self control -yeah right- Genesis will always have these problems.

Well, I know the structure that has been proposed by Petros for the guild, but as I said I do not think it is my place to tell the rest of Genesis as it is simple speculation at the moment. But Rhaegar it is not an open OCC guild from what I remember.

As for the Neutral piece you must remember that the Spirit Circle as is is actually Neutral when it comes to "Secular" things. We do not care about the Dragonarmy and the Knights fighting, this is outside our realm, we are only concerned with the soulless really. That is simplifying it.

As for will the OCC "walkers" be neutral. From what I know, yes, they will be. You can join them just like you can join the Worshippers now. Now who knows what slots this guild will take up, it might be OCC/Lay, or Racial/Occ/Lay, who knows, we are only speculating.

I suggest that everyone wait until the guild is actually finished and open before making any judgments or statements about the guild, because frankly we do not know what will happen.

Windemere

what I find pretty fucked up, is that a quite recently opened (compared to other guilds in Gen) and later several times recoded guild gets yet again attention (Psuchae something), while there are guilds that wait for their update-recode to current standards (Rangers, kenders) ... and no hope is in sight

surely this has no impact on the active numbers in Rangers and kenders ...

Laurel wrote:

Draugor wrote:Will they be REALLY neutral or "neutral"?

is the real question "can I join them as necro?"?

Best bet here would be to assume the "Dragon Order neutral", ie not overly restrictive, but no necros and the like allowed.

Rhaegar wrote:

Makfly wrote:

Windemere wrote:Yes they were, and, No, they weren't. OCC will not be free to join, but I will allow Petros to explain the Structure if he wishes, I am not sure what is allowed to be shared at present.

Windemere

*sigh*

From what I understood, this will actually be 2 new guilds, not just 1 (plus one recode and one closure):
1. Layman WotE's - basically, the same guild as it is now, but with new titles and changed abilities.
2. OCC WotE's - the thing people are talking right now.
3. Some form of OCC Cadet Elemental Academy or something (probably the free-to-join thingie mentioned earlier).

It's not 100% proven info though, so don't hold me on it.

The Academy of Elemantal Arts opened some time ago. You didnt know this, or are you saying they too are being recoded? That kinda sounds odd since they are the newest guild in the realms...

I can only say what gossips I've heard. And I heard that apart from the OCC worshippers (cleric type) there's going to be OCC academy (mage type), without council/application/restrictions. Not sure how this would all work or any of the specifics.

Just mind this is all hearsay, and this entire thread is based on such, so don't hold me on anything and take everything as just that, hearsay.

Rhaegar: You're not making any sense... what rumours? We already have a newbie spellcaster free to join guild. Its not a rumour. Its fact...

Makfly wrote:It sure would be nice to have an occupational caster guild in the game, that is neutral and not surrounded by all the BS that the current ones.
Not to mention, having another guild that does not have the same old people sitting on the same leadership positions for ages.

But I guess that was too good to true.
I hope, whoever is coding the OCC neutral caster guild, that they consider what the game needs, instead of trying to copy all current caster guilds.

Your putting down a guild that has yet to even open, you have no idea how its going to be run. Basing them off how the Scops are is just shit, the Scops were set up to be non neutral, the Elementals are not. Again several evil characters are allowed and have joined the Elementals in the past and present.

Why do we "need" a neutral OCC caster I wonder? Then we will have 2 evils, 1 neutral and 0 good.