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Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 21:07
by cotillion
You used to be able to get pkills without all these fancy blocks.
What happened to all that skill?

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 21:11
by Ilrahil
Recodes came out, Players got absolutely beyond retarded huge, and fights took hours and days of planning in order to set a trap.

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 21:12
by Bromen
you nerfed caltrops.

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 21:14
by Amberlee
Baaah suck it up.
You didnt get the kill.. so what?
History of genesis is FULL of people who got cheated for kills they "should have had" and that died of bugs and AoP told them to suck it up.

People say the so called goodies whine?
Well heres to you so called Evils.. you whine just as much :)

What you do now is.. Go back to basics.. Plan a new ambush and execute it.. And /rince and repeat until you succeed.

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 21:30
by Earth
I do dislike the way that block is coded, but it does have some advantages. I'm just presuming that most of you haven't figured out exactly what those are, and how to use them effectively.

The brute force way that was displayed is one way of using the skill, but there are other more subtle ways of the using the same skill to get a different but still desireable result in a PvP fight.

It's now a matter of how strong or how effective your one skill or ability works, but how use can use the skills or abilities in combination against another combination of skills or abilities to win.

The strategy to PvP a neidar would be different from the one used against a MM.

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 22:57
by Lindros
cotillion wrote:You used to be able to get pkills without all these fancy blocks.
What happened to all that skill?

I would say, reasons are many.

One being that the game evolved just as Ilrahil said, everyone is huge these days and with guild abilities/skills that makes it close to impossible to kill someone unless you find them idle/unarmoured.

What I would like to see is block/stomp to be fixed, Irk getting away just shows that someone missed something in the code, log looks kinda funny, Irk being the target of block&stomps runs off and you have 5-6 people trying to run after him but cannot due to earthquake.

Also this fight made it quite clear that a cooldown to enter peace rooms after combat is needed, why it was not added when cooldowns were addded to gemming/dragons etc I do not know, but its clear that it is needed.

Not to mention that while the feature in Sparkle church to get rested is nice, one would think that it should perhaps be limited to smaller people who actually need it, that a myth uses it to restore fatigue from spells and combat and then runs off and linkdies just shows that there's a flaw in the system.

But congrats to Irk who managed to get away, even though it took

* a bug in earthquake/block
* a lack of cooldown for entering peacerooms
* sparkle church's new feature to restore fatigue(one would think that getting this while poisoned is a joke though), I think you should not be able to enter a peace room while poisoned.


Lets just hope wizards will look into the flaws that has been obvious here and make some changes, then perhaps the next time Irk will not be able to get away...

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 23 Jun 2010 22:57
by Makfly
cotillion wrote:You used to be able to get pkills without all these fancy blocks.
What happened to all that skill?
Ships got recoded. :0)

...and the other things mentioned by Ilrahil and Bromen.

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 24 Jun 2010 10:32
by Tarax the Terrible
Makfly wrote:
cotillion wrote:You used to be able to get pkills without all these fancy blocks.
What happened to all that skill?
Ships got recoded. :0)

...and the other things mentioned by Ilrahil and Bromen.
They got you there Cot... :P
Way to show your hip with the kids..

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 24 Jun 2010 10:37
by Tive
dont forget the basket in Kabal :((

Re: Block + Ogre Quake Interaction

Posted: 24 Jun 2010 18:42
by Mersereau
cotillion wrote:You used to be able to get pkills without all these fancy blocks.
What happened to all that skill?
People got lazy.