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Gotta love it that if I have understood this some people reason that the smaller ones will in any way benefit from this, only the big ones that want to have an easier time hunting people will benefit from this in any way, think about it, the ones getting screwed are the ones that usually needs running, how often is that a myth compared to the other sizes?

Draugor wrote:Gotta love it that if I have understood this some people reason that the smaller ones will in any way benefit from this, only the big ones that want to have an easier time hunting people will benefit from this in any way, think about it, the ones getting screwed are the ones that usually needs running, how often is that a myth compared to the other sizes?

Exactly. Lets assume that the global block is going to work similar like the knight's block when I last used it.

We have a team of 5 veterans who want justice and a myth and single exit: east.
All of the veterans > block east
They do not attack the myth - have not enough discipline for that.
But a myth can kill them one by one - they are blocking each other and can not escape, except the last one, who can be blocked by the myth, though.

I would not like to criticize it before I even could test it, but I have some serious concerns about it and want to share them.

Change that two 2 titans and a hero and it is bye bye myth.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes.

Tarax the Terrible wrote:Change that two 2 titans and a hero and it is bye bye myth.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes.

Yes, but reasoning against your proposal that the block should be considered hostile action was
that the small players (who would not be able to attack because of low discipline) should be able to block.
But in my opinion block wont help that small players.

Confused now.
Block and low dis point was to stop players with low dis using the block combined with ways of moving npcs to get npcs to attack them.

Tarax the Terrible wrote:Confused now.
Block and low dis point was to stop players with low dis using the block combined with ways of moving npcs to get npcs to attack them.

Nevermind I have misunderstood something.

In numerous posts there have been complaints about how powerful block is as a PvP tool.

If as I suspect, global block will be the same as the current knight block, you will all see very soon that it's not really an all powerful i-win button. I will not mention any specifics just in case it's different (or to reveal guild tactics), but there are some serious advantages and disadvantages to block, especially if you are in a team with smaller players.

Block is a difficult ability to use in combat, but those most skilled in PvP will figure out very quickly how to use it to their advantage. For the rest, brace yourselves...

Tarax the Terrible wrote:Change that two 2 titans and a hero and it is bye bye myth.
Looking forward to seeing how it goes.

Well big question here is, what will this result in?

I think people will use second chars to take vengence of first chars etc, its happend
in the past and now if people all of a sudden gets the tool to block people without
initiating combat, I am sure we will see teams of unknown chars around titan size
waiting around major npcs to block legends/myths who are taking beating.

Also, I never heard anything if new block will count as a "special" or not, meaning if you block someone
as a spellcaster you should not be able to focus on casting spells(just like the new system is setted
up so you cannot say charge and throw a spell at once). If wizards made it so that block was counted
as a special and no spells could be casted, at least there would be some sense to it.

But I still think its bullshit if spellcasters get block +their spells with similar effects, when wizards
are keeping ogres from learning block, just shows that the so called balancing is not a real goal, but rather
just something used to motivate certain changes in the game.

Either you make it balanced and even for everyone, or dont call it global balance, better to call it
"balancing certain guilds/players on a global scale".

But I guess we will have to wait and see what this new block is all about, it might not be what we
all think it will be, I just hope wizards have thought things through and not opened up a big possibility
to abuse.


I hope at least that combat has to be initiated, or if nothing else, that once you start blocking someone
you enter combat with them.

Lindros wrote:But I still think its bullshit if spellcasters get block +their spells with similar effects, when wizards
are keeping ogres from learning block, just shows that the so called balancing is not a real goal, but rather
just something used to motivate certain changes in the game.

Either you make it balanced and even for everyone, or dont call it global balance, better to call it
"balancing certain guilds/players on a global scale".

What is bullshit is your railing against spellcasters in almost every post and passing along bogus information. Crowd control methods were re-introduced with ogres and knights and is now becoming global. When and if spellcasters get similar crowd control spells, they will be similarly restricted. Like I said before, stop discussing guild abilities as if they are fact. Talk about your experiences and people can judge whether you are smoking something or not.

Abuse?
Are you meaning as a few ogres abused/use their stun ability? There's a thin line between use and abuse. There are always people who will abuse what is giving to us/them luckily they are few in numbers and I'm sure wizards will step in and fix anything that might come up during the introduction of block.