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The Alliance

Posted: 15 Sep 2013 21:31
by Aimee

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Greetings Citizens of Genesis,

The Conclave of the Knights of Solamnia have
come to the point where we no longer feel
confident in some of our allies and are having
a difficult time reconciling behaviors with
the Oath and the Measure.

We are saddened, but have been left with no
alternative but to leave the Alliance as it 
currently stands.

We will continue to act honorably and according
to the Oath and the Measure as we have in the
past.  

On Behalf of the Conclave,
Lady Aimee Xelith, High Clerist of Solamnia

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 16 Sep 2013 00:35
by Zhar
So, CW and now KoS have decided to leave the alliance. I like some signs of life from the political scene in Genesis.

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 16 Sep 2013 13:58
by Avatar
Easy pickings

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 16 Sep 2013 20:50
by Draugor
avatar wrote:Easy pickings

Bring it old man ;)

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 16 Sep 2013 21:51
by Kas
Put on the danceshoes, gentlemen. :twisted:

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 20 Sep 2013 01:18
by Snowrose
Keep in mind Just because people are leaving the Old alliance does not mean they are unprotected. the old alliance agreement was a 10-20 year old document that was written back in a very different time. Some of the guilds involved do not even exist anymore (IE the ROG branch, vampires) and there are some guilds like spirit circle and necromancers that are new from the POV of the treaty.

The current situation can reform new agreements that include issues relevant to the modern climate such as botting (a current concern), or what if a leader goes inactive for 6 months, The requirement to request forgiveness from allied guilds your an outlaw of. Polices on reformed evils.The ability to be allies of one guild rather than ALL the guilds.The option of being a passive ally. (not sticking noses in other business but also actively not provoking/attacking). maybe even state that alliances need to be renewed every few years.

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 20 Sep 2013 15:20
by Manglor
Snowrose wrote:Keep in mind Just because people are leaving the Old alliance does not mean they are unprotected. the old alliance agreement was a 10-20 year old document that was written back in a very different time. Some of the guilds involved do not even exist anymore (IE the ROG branch, vampires) and there are some guilds like spirit circle and necromancers that are new from the POV of the treaty.

The current situation can reform new agreements that include issues relevant to the modern climate such as botting (a current concern), or what if a leader goes inactive for 6 months, The requirement to request forgiveness from allied guilds your an outlaw of. Polices on reformed evils.The ability to be allies of one guild rather than ALL the guilds.The option of being a passive ally. (not sticking noses in other business but also actively not provoking/attacking). maybe even state that alliances need to be renewed every few years.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's not what this is. If the information from the different guilds is any indication, seems like all guilds want to keep ties severed for now.

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 20 Sep 2013 15:34
by Snowrose
Im not saying they don't have reason for severing. I am saying long term we will probibly see better aliances because of this. People took the old alliance for granted and im sure some people felt it was unfair. but if people can get a better understanding of what they need and are willing to give for it. it might make for better interguild communication.

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 20 Sep 2013 15:46
by Laurel
"All the guilds" are just missing a good and active DA + PoT rampage with AA support..

Re: The Alliance

Posted: 21 Sep 2013 02:34
by Snowrose
She does have a point. Part of the big downside of peace and cooperation is it is rather dull.
The alliances were originally formed to protect and avenge the weaker members of our guilds from the evil guilds.
in the modern day where people mostly stick to them selves or just login to get mail (im guilty of this)

It can kinda seem like whats the point of allies we never see. (often literally in the case of rangers) Alliances kinda need a good unified threat to bind together against. and ideally is should not be ONE GUY.

Lately some of my ranger friends have been calling me the harbinger on the north because i always get on the Habitudes list when some major drama is happening. He has even gone as far as dropping piles of pigeons around when i show up. I'm sure the members on these forums who know me well you know who you are will be laughing about this for months. but i figured id share it anyhow.