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Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 07 Jul 2017 17:11
by Amberlee
Arman wrote:mallor wrote:Really? 3 times before invis is broken? That's plenty time to steal something and be gone way before I understand who did it.
Invis shouldn't benefit stealing. Every failed attempt should end up with me catching the bastard and having him for 10-15 seconds just for myself.
Why shouldn't invisibility benefit stealing? In my mind it is thematically perfect for it.
The two things that need to change are stealing when invisible can't be risk free, and there need to be more invisibility counters. The former is being addressed. The latter will come, now there is a clear player need
Easy to fix.
Pop out of invis when stealing.
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 07 Jul 2017 19:02
by nils
Stealing successfully while invis: Not really a problem.
Spamstealing while failing 99/100 times without reveal - gigantic problem.
You win at stealing: Good boy
You fail at stealing: Invis broken. (Preferably with sticky situation for head smashing)
It's THAT simple.
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 07 Jul 2017 23:35
by mallor
Arman wrote:
Why shouldn't invisibility benefit stealing? In my mind it is thematically perfect for it.
Not the invisibility we have right now. It's uncounterable.
Arman wrote:
The two things that need to change are stealing when invisible can't be risk free, and there need to be more invisibility counters. The former is being addressed. The latter will come, now there is a clear player need
Now we're talking business
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 07 Jul 2017 23:38
by mallor
nils wrote:
You fail at stealing: Invis broken. (Preferably with sticky situation for head smashing)
This please. Sticky fingers should end up with sticky situation. Think twice before you're trying to steal from someone much bigger. Shouldn't be only when stealing from invis, same should apply to stealing from sneak.
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 12 Jul 2017 23:21
by gorboth
Code: Select all
> steal exotic falchion from mallor
Oops! Mallor seems to have caught on to you!
You are no longer invisible.
SMACK!! Mallor backhands you hard right in the face! You sprawl on your back!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Mallor attacks you!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Nils arrives.
Nils attacks you!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Something like that, perhaps?
G.
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 12 Jul 2017 23:40
by Dorrien
Would the backhand be automatic? I would think it would depend somewhat on level differences or SOMETHING? Or else stealing becomes a death-trap?
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 13 Jul 2017 01:03
by Melarec
Dorrien wrote:Would the backhand be automatic? I would think it would depend somewhat on level differences or SOMETHING? Or else stealing becomes a death-trap?
Skill/stat challenge perhaps? Their Dex vs your Dex?
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 13 Jul 2017 11:47
by Alisa
Just dropping invisibility would, in my opinion, be enough.
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 13 Jul 2017 12:18
by nils
gorboth wrote:Code: Select all
> steal exotic falchion from mallor
Oops! Mallor seems to have caught on to you!
You are no longer invisible.
SMACK!! Mallor backhands you hard right in the face! You sprawl on your back!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Mallor attacks you!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Nils arrives.
Nils attacks you!
> s
Ugh ... the room is spinning! You struggle to get up!
Something like that, perhaps?
G.
Naaaw, Gorbie you tease. Mean..
Re: Okay, time to fix this -.-
Posted: 13 Jul 2017 13:07
by Mersereau
Curious, will stealth finally be debugged so it's not possible to sneak away from combat as well?