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Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 16 Jan 2021 17:38
by Mim
Rumours are that one of those spam-thieves bit the dust the other day. :)

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 17 Jan 2021 05:23
by Arman
Thalric wrote:
16 Jan 2021 14:30
Zhar wrote:
16 Jan 2021 12:56
My most recent idea was to introduce a special system to the thieves:

You can attempt to (successfully or not) steal from other players 3 times within 24 hours. After the third time you receive a warning that you're drawing too much attention to the Cabal. Each subsequent attempt produces another warning. After 2 such additional warnings next attempt will draw the ire of Hiddukel resulting from expulsion from the Cabal, removal of pick pocket adaptations, being unable to execute steal command for the next 24 hours and pick pocket adapt trainer refusing his services until you get back into the guild (which requires a pardon).

TLDR: can attempt to steal from other players 5 times within 24 hours, 6th attempt puts Hiddukel's curse upon you.
I dont mind that it is just a 1 minute cooldown or whatever. Gives me plenty of time to deal with the person or move on.
Right now i find the issue to be the "peek" command. Because there is no limit to that, and in the last week or two i have had 20 lines spam of me catching some human trying to pry in my stuff.
And when trying to kill the fucker, he easily runs off before any damage can be done.
Peek now has a timer similar to steal.

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 17 Jan 2021 11:34
by Amberlee
Zhar wrote:
16 Jan 2021 12:56
My most recent idea was to introduce a special system to the thieves:

You can attempt to (successfully or not) steal from other players 3 times within 24 hours. After the third time you receive a warning that you're drawing too much attention to the Cabal. Each subsequent attempt produces another warning. After 2 such additional warnings next attempt will draw the ire of Hiddukel resulting from expulsion from the Cabal, removal of pick pocket adaptations, being unable to execute steal command for the next 24 hours and pick pocket adapt trainer refusing his services until you get back into the guild (which requires a pardon).

TLDR: can attempt to steal from other players 5 times within 24 hours, 6th attempt puts Hiddukel's curse upon you.
This is a good one and would defo prevent all out abuse like a certain idiot does repeatedly and every time gets deleted for it.
It's really the only issue with the Cabal.
The rest of the abilities work fine as they are, even peek.

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 17 Jan 2021 15:41
by Mim
Zhar wrote:
16 Jan 2021 12:56
My most recent idea was to introduce a special system to the thieves:

You can attempt to (successfully or not) steal from other players 3 times within 24 hours. After the third time you receive a warning that you're drawing too much attention to the Cabal. Each subsequent attempt produces another warning. After 2 such additional warnings next attempt will draw the ire of Hiddukel resulting from expulsion from the Cabal, removal of pick pocket adaptations, being unable to execute steal command for the next 24 hours and pick pocket adapt trainer refusing his services until you get back into the guild (which requires a pardon).

TLDR: can attempt to steal from other players 5 times within 24 hours, 6th attempt puts Hiddukel's curse upon you.
Rediculous if you ask me!
Perhaps not the idea, but the numbers are rediculously low.

If a thief comes to Sparkle to steal, 3 times a day is pathetic.
It's the spamsteal/peek that should be prevented.
Not a clever thief, who does his stunt in a clever way so people do hardly notice.
And if they do notice, they do not notice who did it.

It's the:

You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!
You catch the male human rifling through your private
belongings!

that should be stopped. (And now it seems to be)

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 03 Apr 2021 20:55
by Mim
Fairlight wrote:
19 Dec 2020 16:28
Does it really bring anything, apart from griefing to the game ?
Why close, when you can nerf?

First went steal and peek. Someone suggested max 3 times per day. Odd this cap did not find a way into the guild.
On the subject Cotillion wrote:
06 Jan 2021 13:46
Every player who went and whined about how unbalanced it was that someone who sacrified their layman slot get that single ability killed the thieves.
People suck sometimes.
Now this mighty and unfair 'one-hit-per-fight' and 'useless if the target can see you' global skill backstab was nerfed into nothing.

With their damage skill gone they are not only killed as Cotillion suggested.
They are stomped into the ground.
Annihilated.

Cotillion made a good point.
People suck sometimes.

I agree Fairlight. Why keep a guild that is nerfed into a void?

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 03 Apr 2021 21:39
by nils
*a comment about not taking things out of context*

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 03 Apr 2021 22:03
by Mim
nils wrote:
03 Apr 2021 21:39
*a comment about not taking things out of context*
Mr Godwin, that was a somewhat confusing comment.

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 10:49
by Nerull
Perhaps if you "catch someone", combat should be initiated automatically? It also implies that since you catch somebody, he/she is no longer hidden either. So, you catch somebody in the act, and you draw your sword or whatever, and pvp begins.

Sounds like an easy plausible solution to me. (and, you can't steal in combat ofcourse, or peek, because, well, you are fighting the dude).

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 12:09
by Thalric
And you can't see that being abused horribly?
Supermyth wants to fight X person, but doesn't want to be the aggressor.
Horrible pick pocket skill and attempt, X is the one initiating combat.

Big guy claims to be innocent, and "I was only protecting myself". :roll:

Re: Close the thief guild!

Posted: 06 Apr 2021 18:31
by Mim
Nerull wrote:
06 Apr 2021 10:49
you can't steal in combat ofcourse, or peek, because, well, you are fighting the dude.
Ofc. That is reasonable.
And you can not backstab either, which is also reasonable.