Vampires

[Kvator]

but in all fairness this is nothing new as I understand it. Correct me if I am wrong.

'normal' heals doesn't work on this particular mob (Nazgul)

so in that case it's something new (duno if death spells casted on nazgul would trigger combat)

[Hektor]

Not gonna go into details on how heals from different sources work/don't work..not my place. I do think you know how they work and here it's just annoying it's in their favor as well and not ours..because we benefit greatly from how they work too.

[TaranGoatWalker]

We seem to be missing the obvious solution already in place.

[Budwise]

We seem to be missing the obvious solution already in place.

Closing yet another incarnation of vamps? Would be a shame.
This one seemed rather balanced until now.
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[Rache]

We seem to be missing the obvious solution already in place.

Closing yet another incarnation of vamps? Would be a shame.
This one seemed rather balanced until now.
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I think he means getting rid of the FBB altogether

[TaranGoatWalker]

We seem to be missing the obvious solution already in place.

Closing yet another incarnation of vamps? Would be a shame.
This one seemed rather balanced until now.
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I think he means getting rid of the FBB altogether

I mean spending all that time you do complaining about this getting yourself one of many sources of Truesight

[Rache]

Closing yet another incarnation of vamps? Would be a shame.
This one seemed rather balanced until now.
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I think he means getting rid of the FBB altogether

I mean spending all that time you do complaining about this getting yourself one of many sources of Truesight

But then what would they have to whine and troll about?!

[TripleM]

Closing yet another incarnation of vamps? Would be a shame.
This one seemed rather balanced until now.
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I think he means getting rid of the FBB altogether

I mean spending all that time you do complaining about this getting yourself one of many sources of Truesight

So - are we in agreement from a player-perspective (OOC) that meddling with combat you are not taking part in, by healing from invis, is basically the same as assisting in said combat and that it is a enough reason to get killed for? That it is a personal matter and not guild-related? Just asking for a friend.

I'm still of opinion that healing someone in combat from invis should break invis - if it was possible before by other guilds, I was not aware, but my opnion would be the same. If you call it whining, go ahead.

[TaranGoatWalker]

I think he means getting rid of the FBB altogether

I mean spending all that time you do complaining about this getting yourself one of many sources of Truesight

So - are we in agreement from a player-perspective (OOC) that meddling with combat you are not taking part in, by healing from invis, is basically the same as assisting in said combat and that it is a enough reason to get killed for? That it is a personal matter and not guild-related? Just asking for a friend.

I'm still of opinion that healing someone in combat from invis should break invis - if it was possible before by other guilds, I was not aware, but my opnion would be the same. If you call it whining, go ahead.

How would it be any different to healing the enemy someone is fighting in plain sight?

[Hektor]

If you aid someone in combat, especially very direct aid like healing or buffing - (invis/hidden etc or not)... you have taken a side. That has a risc. When Hektor healed NPCs in the past I always knew - this may come back to haunt me... and it did

If it is a personal matter or a guild matter is like every conflict something you can never be sure about. Its about the parties and their rules of engagement. Ive found that general rules of engagement in Genesis (both from an OOC and IC perspective) have shifted back and forth over the decades.

I may think that I am acting alone by healing someone, but the opponent want to take it out on the guild i am in. It may even be that the guild affiliations see it as an act of war. Some may see the Holm as a free for all and if you go there you accept it... some may say.. even if I am visitor I abide by my own rules - attack me there and Ill attack you anywhere.

For us players its "help rules" - for our characters its "whatever you feel your characters feels about it" and both leaves the ball game very open!