petros wrote:Lindros wrote:
Guild X I have witnessed them cast
healing/damage/movement control/poison/ and have also experienced scryes/evade abilities
and witnessed them tank multiple foes in Mithas/Terel trolls without taking too much damage.
Guild Y
I have seen them cast damage, scry, movement control, poison and mana regen and have also
seen players of this guild take out mithas/qualinosti on their own.
Ok, thanks for sharing your experiences Lindros. Just to further illustrate my point from the previous post on what is acceptable or not. You say you saw someone cast scry - it's unclear how you can certainly see someone cast a spell, but you can't see what's on their screen and whether the spell is revealing scry information. You say you saw someone cast mana regen, but were you able to examine their mental levels? You also claim to have seen movement control, but as discussed before, that could simply be someone giving a heavy burden to someone and not really a guild ability. You witnessed people tanking multiple foes or taking out areas single-handedly, but without the context to whether they were using potions, certain types of eq, darkness, etc, it really doesn't put any of the abilities into context.
My point is that your statements here still lean towards the declaration of abilities that other guilds have, rather than just sharing your experiences.
Well if I see player A "Concentrating" and then 2 secs later I get hit by somehing that drains me of fatigue or health, its not that complicated to make the assumption player A was the one behind it, is it?
As for scryes, well when you all of a sudden get a message "You feel watched" or whatever and get it repeatedly, and then player A shows up, it repeats 100+ times, and you get to see a pattern.
When I say movement control I am not refering to giving someone a huge heap of copper, but rather player A staring at me and I feel fatigued and unable to move, unless I just fell in love with player A's dark emerald green eyes and became sleepy from that , I would assume
that player A has a way to make me tired.
While you as a wizard might be looking for the context, of herbs/potions and what-not used when someone tanks an entire area without
having to stop, to me that shows that the player is real powerful, if he has to prepare for 2 hours to make it so, thats beyond my knowledge/experience, but to me that doesnt really matter. If they with preparations can take out an area that I could not take out in 5-6hours, they can do it 2,5hours with the preparations+killing time, it still makes me think they are powerful.
And I am sure most mortals would agree, potion/herb etc usage might play a factor when wizards deem something balance/unbalanced, but from a mortal perspective, being able to kill an entire area in 2,5 hours that takes someone of equal size in a none magic guild 5hours, still gives you a pretty good perception of how powerful the caster is compared to a melee guild.
I by no means tried to make a declaration of what any other guild had or not, I just found your first reply to my note amusing, as from my point of view it was untrue.