Neidar Clan

[Creed]

A dwarf that has generel hate towards goblinoids..
..and you want said dwarf to join a guild, peopled mostly by such goblinoids?

That doesn't really make any sense.

[Hektor]

Well in all fairness there used to be dwarves in AA back in the way back when. I could see a dwarf, especially one who left the petty ideals of honor, clan and comradie behind to find a real army.. one that understands strength and that true dwarven might makes right... SNUGAZ PULP! (if that somehow matches with being a Neidar or a Neidar exile.. I am utterly clueless about...)

[Draugor]

Aye AA allow and have had dwarves etc, but the Neidar clan dont really get along with Gobbos, or arent supposed to atleast, but that went out the window years ago. The combo would be insane tho, so its imo a balance issue aswell, I mean the ogre kombo is good but... Neidar would get 2 offensive specials and 2 defensive, they are immortal as it is.

Oh and Irk, shut your cheating unfit leader mouth, go eat borsht or something

[Arcon]

Oh and Irk, shut your cheating unfit leader mouth, go eat borsht or something

Draugor please. This isn't the flame board. At least try to be civil.

I don't know the specific diet of Irk and it seems that the wizards have checked on him several(?) times and he hasn't been caught roboting even if I have made a fortune taking the coins he left in Gont roboting but this is about the Neidar Clan and if their choice in leadership is Irk then that is their choice and unless you are a Neidar then you have not much to say in that matter.


I think it specific mention in the book that has information about the Neidar Clan that they do NOT accept dwarves that are allies with gobliniods or members of guilds that are, or something like that, to avoid the combination of AA/Neidar. There was a member in the beginning I think that was Neidar and AA layman.

[Draugor]

Oh and Irk, shut your cheating unfit leader mouth, go eat borsht or something

Draugor please. This isn't the flame board. At least try to be civil.

I don't know the specific diet of Irk and it seems that the wizards have checked on him several(?) times and he hasn't been caught roboting even if I have made a fortune taking the coins he left in Gont roboting but this is about the Neidar Clan and if their choice in leadership is Irk then that is their choice and unless you are a Neidar then you have not much to say in that matter.


I think it specific mention in the book that has information about the Neidar Clan that they do NOT accept dwarves that are allies with gobliniods or members of guilds that are, or something like that, to avoid the combination of AA/Neidar. There was a member in the beginning I think that was Neidar and AA layman.

Oh, hes been busted They just dont do anything. Still you're right this aint the place for it.

And aye the book states that, might even be against goblin friendly guilds overall, even layman guilds. Not sure if its hardcoded tho, quite the the thane wouldnt care tho if anyone went there

[Laurel]

That book you all mention says Neidar do not ACCEPT AA into their ranks ... doesn't say Neidar should not become AA per se ;p
That book also says Neidar consider AA dwarves meddled in the head - not enemies.
Neidar also do NOT coexist with Angmar in any books or other lore except Genesis, so WTH?!? All that pseudoRP bsb (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/) was never mentioned when Knights decided to hunt the Thane (same setting! same realm!) or Calians broke the age-old alliance only to make enemies of the Thane and the Captain of Ithilien (the latter for most bollocks reasons in this game's history, as usual when it's about excuses for RL animosities).

I fail to remember a similar topic when MM's were tricksters, or SU necromancers, or knight bloodguards, or Calians ran around with a SoH ... double standards anyone?

If it's about you and your friends, it's "a great RP opportunity" - if it's about others, it's a perfect flame target. Seriously ... most fucked up aspect of this game. Ever. Since I can remember. Decades passed already.

[Arcon]

That book you all mention says Neidar do not ACCEPT AA into their ranks ... doesn't say Neidar should not become AA per se ;p
That book also says Neidar consider AA dwarves meddled in the head - not enemies.
Neidar also do NOT coexist with Angmar in any books or other lore except Genesis, so WTH?!? All that pseudoRP bsb (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/) was never mentioned when Knights decided to hunt the Thane (same setting! same realm!) or Calians broke the age-old alliance only to make enemies of the Thane and the Captain of Ithilien (the latter for most bollocks reasons in this game's history, as usual when it's about excuses for RL animosities).

I fail to remember a similar topic when MM's were tricksters, or SU necromancers, or knight bloodguards, or Calians ran around with a SoH ... double standards anyone?

If it's about you and your friends, it's "a great RP opportunity" - if it's about others, it's a perfect flame target. Seriously ... most fucked up aspect of this game. Ever. Since I can remember. Decades passed already.

Of course AA and Neidar are never mentioned in the same book but neither have Psuchae and MM or BDA and rangers or Calian. SU isn't mentioned anywhere so they can't exist, right? Consider Flint from the Dragon Lance, do you think he would have joined a army like AA? Do you think anyone of his kin would?
Knights hunted the Thane because the Thane had done several attacks on knights and killed one, what do you think the stucked up knights of solamnia in the books would have done about it?
That the alliance broke I would say was because no one took ir serious anymore. I don't know why the Calians hunted the captain or RoI, I don't even know who was the captain but I can guess.
MM/tricksters I would never take serious, SU I think(?) have problems with magic so that don't seem to fit but I don't have a lot of knowledge about the SU. Knight/bloodguard, no one knew this knight was a bloodguard so who would have judge her?

I personally think it is sad how low the standard for RP and guild RP is, when I was a knight I wanted the old rules about JBS etc to come back, I argued for it because it would show that the Knights believed more in the "code" than in pure power. But of course others disagreed with me. Knight can still not use poison or darkness I believe.

[Creed]

I think they changed those too, since any knight should use any advantages available to him, in order to exterminate evil and free the masses from oppression.

[Irk]

Arcon you know he would be dead, i warned about it. When alliance was broken and he beg for that, he got it.

But as you noticed everything is changing, good are hunting for good and me as Thane cant do any move, because of our strange restrictions in align.
In current state in Dragon Lance Flint had choosen this path, but who knows what he would do if situation would be a bit different and for example Knights attacked one of his brothers Maybe he will fight arm in arm with DA against Knights
Why do we have walk one straight line imagined ages ago? Times are changing and same our situation in the Realms. Turning on the path are interesting and make game more interesting, something new is happenning.

And align case I ask, because of one of the turning in the situation. I have big problem in the war zone which belongs to Knights. Their damned mobs are good aligned and after few i couldnt use chop, which was a bit annoying.

[Greneth]

That book you all mention says Neidar do not ACCEPT AA into their ranks ... doesn't say Neidar should not become AA per se ;p
That book also says Neidar consider AA dwarves meddled in the head - not enemies.
Neidar also do NOT coexist with Angmar in any books or other lore except Genesis, so WTH?!? All that pseudoRP bsb (http://www.bullshitbingo.net/) was never mentioned when Knights decided to hunt the Thane (same setting! same realm!) or Calians broke the age-old alliance only to make enemies of the Thane and the Captain of Ithilien (the latter for most bollocks reasons in this game's history, as usual when it's about excuses for RL animosities).

I fail to remember a similar topic when MM's were tricksters, or SU necromancers, or knight bloodguards, or Calians ran around with a SoH ... double standards anyone?

If it's about you and your friends, it's "a great RP opportunity" - if it's about others, it's a perfect flame target. Seriously ... most fucked up aspect of this game. Ever. Since I can remember. Decades passed already.

Your grasping here.

Eh.. a Mage could join the Care bear Guild and not an eye would be batted and if one was well.. "They are Elite Roleplayers" end of story.

SU far as my limited knowledge goes can use magic, just not in certain areas. The Bloodguard thing was a work of art to be honest and didn't fall into any RP conflicts. That one is pretty legit. Calians... Hell you'd be lucky to find one that even knows Calian Lore beyond Caliana was the leader and Kroug is the bad guy, suffice to say wielding the SoH if you go by the lore is possible.

I say since Neidar want to become AA we let Rangers become Necromancers. Aragon was one!