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Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 19:02
by Kvator
nils wrote: A kender is a weak creature, the fact that they are now close to or equal to an angmarrim is completely and utterly absurd as well.
See Draugor? Some folks already caught ur bullshit-bait.

SS is not close to AA (in grinding etc).

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 19:09
by nils
Kvator wrote:SS is not close to AA (in grinding etc).
Ever been AA?

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 19:33
by Kvator
nils wrote:
Kvator wrote:SS is not close to AA (in grinding etc).
Ever been AA?
Yes. AA/mino combo was pretty decent.

Ever been kender?

I agree though that in general DPS is king in Genesis atm and purely offensive guilds (Calia, Wohs, Dragonarmies etc) have upper hand. But this is general (game-design) issue and not AA issue.
AA is lucky to - at least - have access to one of two purely offensive lay options (BMs and Minotaurs) - contrary to Neidars or Kenders.

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 20:30
by nils
Kvator wrote:
nils wrote:
Kvator wrote:SS is not close to AA (in grinding etc).
Ever been AA?
Yes. AA/mino combo was pretty decent.

Ever been kender?

I agree though that in general DPS is king in Genesis atm and purely offensive guilds (Calia, Wohs, Dragonarmies etc) have upper hand. But this is general (game-design) issue and not AA issue.
AA is lucky to - at least - have access to one of two purely offensive lay options (BMs and Minotaurs) - contrary to Neidars or Kenders.
No, I play a fighter, not a cleptomanic twig.

Yes, I've been AA/Minotaur previously, and yes - it is very decent because minotaurs are great. I like the guild, just not being a minotaur. That said, any of the comparable guilds benefit equally good from gore making them even more hard hitting and subsequently surpassing AA equally once gain from/reliance on defensive combat aid becomes unneccessary.

If you actually read my note, what you just said is basically the same, only saying the game itself is a problem. Pointing at a problem and crying about it makes no contribution but tears. And no, you can't, under any circumstance, claim that kenders are comparable to a goblin angmar warrior. That's just absurd.

I proposed a quick and pragmatic solution. You can't really fix the game in a jiffy, but you sure as hell can fix AA in one.

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 20:41
by Draugor
Again, pipsqueak kender in a rogue guild, and in a pure rogue guild whom themewise is more of a roaming/exploring guild.

You're not supposed to be a combat machine :P Angmarim are supposed to be barbaric warriors, not rogues.

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 22:42
by Kvator
nils wrote: And no, you can't, under any circumstance, claim that kenders are comparable to a goblin angmar warrior. That's just absurd.
I would never say such blasphemy. It'obvious that quick-witted, dexterous and fearless kenders (one was revered hero of the lance btw!) are better than weak, stupid and clumsy green-shits that are your default lvl 1 super easy opponent in most rpg settings :)

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 22:46
by Draugor
Kvator wrote:
nils wrote: And no, you can't, under any circumstance, claim that kenders are comparable to a goblin angmar warrior. That's just absurd.
I would never say such blasphemy. It'obvious that quick-witted, dexterous and fearless kenders (one was revered hero of the lance btw!) are better than weak, stupid and clumsy green-shits that are your default lvl 1 super easy opponent in most rpg settings :)
Yea... we should disable the attack command :D ONly, fighting if actually attacked, that's very kenderlike too :)

And it aint about race, it's about guildtype :P Again, kenders are not warriors

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 22:55
by Kvator
Draugor wrote: And it aint about race, it's about guildtype :P Again, kenders are not warriors
That' only your opinion, Sir: http://dlnexus.com/lexicon/15695.aspx

and argument 'oh oh but but...GUILD TYPE!' is no longer valid (since opening of ur new guild :) )

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 20 Jul 2019 23:52
by nils
Sigh.

Re: The Army of Angmar needs a new name.

Posted: 21 Jul 2019 01:12
by Drazson
There's not just defence and defensive specials people pay caid for while what they get is useless. In that light you are advocating that kenders (as well as rangers, archers, and I guess monks due to defence and many more guilds?) should be punished for picking a supposedly legit Genesis guild and that they should have a horrible time trying to grow as players?